Empowering Women Through Breast Thermography: Insights from Christine Banerjee
In this enlightening podcast, we delve into the transformative practice of breast thermography, an innovative and non-invasive screening method that serves as an alternative to traditional mammography. Our guest, Christine Banerjee, a clinical thermographic technician, elucidates the significance of this approach in monitoring breast health by examining physiological changes rather than relying solely on the detection of lumps. We engage in a comprehensive discussion on the importance of understanding one’s health from a holistic perspective, emphasizing lifestyle and emotional factors that can influence well-being. Christine shares compelling insights about how early detection through thermography can empower women to make informed health choices and potentially alter their life trajectories. The conversation aims to enlighten listeners about the advantages of breast thermography and the critical role it plays in proactive healthcare for women.
Takeaways:
- Breast thermography offers a non-invasive screening alternative that prioritizes women's health and wellness.
- This modality allows for early detection of physiological changes in breast tissue without the discomfort of traditional mammography.
- Lifestyle modifications, including diet and emotional health, are crucial for reducing breast cancer risk and improving overall well-being.
- Understanding the vascular patterns and inflammation through thermography can reveal important health insights before tumors.
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About thermography if that would be better than a long bio- Every woman young and seasoned would benefit from including breast thermography as part of her regular breast health care. Breast thermography is a non-invasive test of physiology. It is a valuable procedure for alerting your doctor to changes that can indicate early-stage breast disease. Thermography can detect the subtle physiologic changes that accompany breast pathology, whether it is fibrocystic disease, vascular disease, cancer, or an infection from your mouth invading your breast. When used with other procedures the best possible evaluation of breast health is made.
About Christine Banerjee:
Christine Banerjee, MCHFS, CTT, is passionate about guiding her clients on a journey to uncover the root causes of their health challenges and find natural solutions to restore vitality. She takes a holistic approach, using a blend of tools to connect the dots and create a personalized wellness plan.
With over half her adult life dedicated to helping people improve their health, Christine has mastered the art of making small, impactful changes. A certified holistic nutritionist, she began her journey with a focus on gut health and healing foods, believing nutrition to be the foundation of well-being. Over time, she added essential oils, thermography, and holographic energy with NuVision to her toolkit, and in 2023, became a Hanna Kroeger Practitioner. Always curious, Christine continuously seeks new knowledge and modalities to support her clients.
Christine has helped hundreds of people transform into healthier versions of themselves. Her motto: "One step better than the last." She believes poor health isn’t a result of aging, but rather the buildup of toxins, unresolved emotions, and nutrient depletion. By identifying the root cause, Christine empowers the body to heal itself with the right tools.
Transcript
Hello everyone and welcome to the courageous destiny build a business and life you love podcast.
Speaker A:I am Kristin Crockett and I am so happy to have Christine Banerjee on my show today.
Speaker A:She is a clinical thermographic technician, mom of a beautiful 18 year old college freshman daughter, avid learner and in the service of women and their health.
Speaker A:And I got to know Christine and Nevette where I heard her stand up in front of everybody and she definitely caught my attention with I love to get my breasts smashed and touched by strangers said no one.
Speaker A:I love that you say it's so much better than I just did.
Speaker A:But welcome to my show, Christine.
Speaker A:It's so nice to have you.
Speaker B:Well, thank you Kristen so much for having me.
Speaker B:I appreciate this platform to be able to share what I do and help women think about their health.
Speaker A:Well, I thought it was really interesting.
Speaker A:I never knew about breast thermography really until I met you and that it was an alternate way for, you know, for women to be able to get screened and so on and so forth in an inexpensive way too.
Speaker A:And I'd love for you to share with us a little bit about breast thermography and how it works and why that might be a really great option for women.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:Thanks for, thanks for asking those questions.
Speaker B:So thermography is a radiation free, compression free, touch free screening tool.
Speaker B: It's been around since: Speaker B:It is a great way to look at the physiology of the breast.
Speaker B:What's happening, what's beginning to change in breast tissue versus the smashing and the radiation and the once a year check in of do I have a lump or not?
Speaker B:Because it does take time for a cancer to grow, for a tumor to grow.
Speaker B:So looking at the physiology versus the anatomy, we can see, hey, something's happening.
Speaker B:Let's change your lifestyle, work on your emotions, do something to change the outcome versus what do you mean it appeared out of nowhere this year and it wasn't there last year?
Speaker B:Well, that's just not really the case.
Speaker A:Well, I have a question.
Speaker A:Can you tell through the breast thermography?
Speaker A:Kind of like what, I don't know if you could really tell what stage it is in.
Speaker A:But like how much information can you, can you draw from the thermography about somebody's health and.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's looking at vascular patterns and inflammation.
Speaker B:So if you're comparing if, well let's back up.
Speaker B:If it's the very first time by vascular pattern or inflammation, you're going to get a rating.
Speaker B:How likely is your risk factor?
Speaker B:It's not saying, do you or don't you?
Speaker B:Because really you can only determine cancer by a biopsy, Right.
Speaker B:So how likely are you if nothing changes that something's happening?
Speaker B:So by vascular pattern or inflammation, we can say, hey, something's not looking fabulous here.
Speaker B:But if you compare this time to next time and it's changed in a less favorable way, then you know, hey, something's growing.
Speaker B:So what happens in cancer growth is it needs a blood supply.
Speaker B:So the vascular patterns change in the way they look because they're going around the tumor and giving it blood supply.
Speaker B:So we can see that those physiological changes along the way to be like, hey, something's happening.
Speaker B:Like it's the, the lights on your car, you know, your little oil light pops up, hey, something's going on.
Speaker B:You better look at your oil.
Speaker B:So we.
Speaker B:It's the same kind of thing.
Speaker B:Something's going on.
Speaker B:Let's take a look.
Speaker A:Wow, that's really interesting.
Speaker A:So you could actually see it in the formation more mode before it even becomes necessarily like a tumor or visible.
Speaker B:Tumor on a mammogram.
Speaker B:So it is really preventative or early detection.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:If you're waiting for the tumor to be able to be big enough to be seen in mammography, you already have it.
Speaker B:It's already fully formed and could be whatever stage it might be.
Speaker B:But if you start to notice changes, then you have time to work on your lifestyle, work on your emotions, do things that will reduce the risk and therefore maybe change the outcome.
Speaker B:We're not just waiting to see.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because you could.
Speaker A:Have you seen people be able.
Speaker A:Like I'm just, I know, you know, I've got to ask these questions because I'm very curious.
Speaker A:So have you seen people have these different kinds of warning signs?
Speaker A:I'm going to look at it like a warning sign.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You see that there's some blood flow that's shifting and what have you in my non medical.
Speaker A:So there's some things that are shifting.
Speaker A:What sort of lifestyle changes?
Speaker A:Because you said emotional, you said lifestyle.
Speaker A:What are some changes that people can implement or is there ways that you can know like what kind of emotional things to look at or what sort of lifestyle changes would make the biggest difference for that?
Speaker B:Like yeah, the easiest things that we can do right off the bat.
Speaker B:Well, we can, we can have a link at the bottom of your thing or somehow I don't know how that all works for your people.
Speaker A:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker B:Have a lifestyle, reducing your risk lifestyle link which will go over everything because that could take a Long time to talk about it all.
Speaker B:But so things like eating healthy fats and that's a whole thing which we don't have time to do.
Speaker B:But the healthy fats, the conventional healthy fats that we think are healthy are not healthy, they break down, they're just not good.
Speaker B:So going back to real butter and extra virgin olive oil, but don't heat it.
Speaker B:So there are things that we can do.
Speaker B:Oils are a big factor.
Speaker B:The dreaded sugar.
Speaker B:I know we're going into the season of sugar, but sugar impacts your body in a negative way.
Speaker B:Sorry to say that, but that's true.
Speaker A:Well, I think the older you get too.
Speaker A:I know my experience is if I go out and I have even like a piece of cake or something, the next day I feel like I have a hangover.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:Right, a sugar hangover.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I'm like, this is no fun anymore.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:It's just not worth it.
Speaker B:So things like drinking green tea, that's a simple thing we can do, right?
Speaker B:Or eating more vegetables.
Speaker B:So those good healthy higher fiber vegetables which help us to get rid of extra estrogens.
Speaker B:So that's, you know, a good thing to do.
Speaker B:As far as emotions go, there are a lot of schools of thought about left side, right side, masculine, feminine energy and emotions that are stored in our body.
Speaker B:So I had this gal, she had very consistent thermograms, you know, no issues for many years.
Speaker B:And then she came in and her right side, she's right handed, so that matters.
Speaker B:She's her right side, side, breast was like, whoa, what's going on?
Speaker B:And she, I didn't say that to her, of course, I would never say that.
Speaker B:But she, it was like, oh, something's different.
Speaker B:So she proceeded while she was acclimating to the room temperature, she said, oh, I'm going through a divorce, all these blah, blah, blah, blah, blah things that happened.
Speaker B:And it was like, oh, okay.
Speaker B:So the emotional stress of the soon to be ex husband and all that that entailed impacted her right breast health.
Speaker B:So she was aware of working through, needing to work through those things.
Speaker B:So she did.
Speaker B:And she was also a little more consistent in the healthy choices and foods and stuff that she could do and worked through it.
Speaker B:The next time she came back it was a little better.
Speaker B:And then six.
Speaker B:So she did three months and six months and at six months it was back to the that it was.
Speaker B:So if she had not seen the thermogram, maybe she didn't work through as consistently those issues that she knew were impacting her health.
Speaker B:They just festered, stayed there, and therefore would in the future turn into full blown cancer.
Speaker B:So, wow.
Speaker A:You know, it's, it's, it's really interesting because when I work with somebody, I'm living their courageous destiny.
Speaker A:I always say coor is French for from the heart.
Speaker A:So when I hear courageous destiny, I always hear from the heart, rage, destiny.
Speaker A:And to me, what that means is my brain's not always in charge.
Speaker A:I have this other incredible ability to live my life with my heart, you know, and I have the ability to lead with my heart.
Speaker A:And when I do leave with my heart, I'm often not feeling anger, resentment, you know, some of the.
Speaker A:Those contrasting emotions.
Speaker A:You know, I'm living at a higher.
Speaker A:I like to say I'm living at a higher, A higher level, a higher frequency of emotion when I'm loving.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So you've got the energetic chart, which I really got to put that somewhere front and center because I reference it almost in every single podcast I do.
Speaker A:Because one of the things that I must stand for is that people can choose their perspectives.
Speaker A:They can choose to create with their lives, they can choose different things that will elevate their frequency and therefore live in a healing state more and more and more.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:And I, I'm gonna say what I think you're saying, so make sure that.
Speaker A:But what I'm hearing is that there's actually a physiological thing that happens when you're feeling deflated, when you have some of these emotions and they can lead to issues in our body.
Speaker A:And one of them.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Breast cancer.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so if you, if you are, if you have some tragic something happen and you truly deal with it, then it's not an issue.
Speaker B:It's when you think you've dealt with it or you haven't really dealt with it, or it's 20 years later and you're still talking about that jerk you divorced.
Speaker B:You're asking for trouble because you're holding on to that.
Speaker B:I had one of my mentors tell me once, she said, you can talk about something.
Speaker B:Three times I had, oh, at this vacation.
Speaker B:This just happened.
Speaker B:And you're the third person I've told, so you can know this, this is my.
Speaker B:This is the last time I'll mention it.
Speaker B:The flight was delayed, the air, everything was a million lines, horrible, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:Two days to get home.
Speaker B:Okay, so that was my third time.
Speaker B:And I'm not going to go into all of it because it's not worth it.
Speaker B:But if I were to tell every single person who I talked to how was your vacation?
Speaker B:And told them about this story.
Speaker B:I'm hanging on to that story.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Does that serve my better, highest purpose?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Does it help the people I'm talking to?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Let it go.
Speaker B:Don't hang on to that crap.
Speaker B:Three times.
Speaker B:Three times.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker A:I love that structure.
Speaker A:I love simple structures and I love that structure.
Speaker A:So that is a really awesome structure because I, I had a.
Speaker A:I had a mentor.
Speaker A:And she would say to me, she goes, kristen, what are you creating?
Speaker A:They're like, noted.
Speaker A:Let's move on.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Because I'm like, I'm not creating anything.
Speaker A:I can.
Speaker A:I know that today I can train my brain to create things.
Speaker A:And creating can be visualization.
Speaker A:It can be my imagination.
Speaker A:It can be me scheduling time with friends.
Speaker A:It can be me having this conversation, this wonderful conversation with this amazing, beautiful woman, Christine Banerjee, that's creating.
Speaker A:And then another thing that I could be doing the opposite, right.
Speaker A:I could be destroying my.
Speaker A:I'm always looking at my energetic, you know, my energetic level.
Speaker A:If I'm destroying, you know, that's kind of when I'm getting angry about things when I'm.
Speaker A:Now I don't want to live in a Pollyanna world, right.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:There's contrast to this world.
Speaker A:But like you said, those three things, I wanted to make sure my, My client or my listeners here heard that today because three things, you can at least feel like you.
Speaker A:You were heard by yourself, by maybe another human being.
Speaker A:But then the Let go.
Speaker A:The let it go because then now you're starting to bring that into your awareness and now you're starting to create in that direction.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Oh, thank you for that.
Speaker A:That was really great.
Speaker A:I'm having.
Speaker A:In my group right now, we're having Let Go December.
Speaker A:I think you'd like it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But in Let Go December, it was really incredible.
Speaker A:I, I challenged myself to every day come up with a different way to look at letting go because there's so many things that we can hang on to.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And I have found, you know, everything from letting go of those lack beliefs.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I don't have enough to letting go of anything toxic in my environment to letting go of trash, like physical trash that's around me.
Speaker A:You know, there's so many things and those, you know, particularly when you have something that's traumatic, you could have been hanging on to it for a lifetime.
Speaker B:And it goes somewhere in your body.
Speaker B:So I mean, if someone's really interested, they can look up the work of Hammer, what's his first name he was so weird that I can't think of his first name.
Speaker B:He was a.
Speaker B:An oncologist, and he had access to brain scans, and he saw particular cancers in the brain in certain areas of the brain.
Speaker B:It wasn't brain cancer.
Speaker B:It was the sorrel pattern in relationship to the cancer area.
Speaker B:But also he connected cancers to traumatic events.
Speaker B:So, I.
Speaker B:E.
Speaker B:A person whose child was killed.
Speaker B:Traumatic.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The man might get prostate cancer and the woman might get uterine cancer because your child was taken away from you unexpectedly.
Speaker B:A person who had, you know, was fired from their job suddenly, unexpectedly, unfairly, might get, let's say.
Speaker B:Well, I might get, let's say, colon cancer.
Speaker B:Because they just got the s.
Speaker B:End of the deal.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because that's where they held the.
Speaker B:The trauma of it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You know, and they're still talking two years later about how they were fired unjustly and, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:So they're carrying that, and then it turns into colon cancer.
Speaker B:So, like, all of those little expressions that we say, oh, it turned my stomach or it.
Speaker B:Now I can't think of more.
Speaker B:But, you know, we use these body part expressions.
Speaker B:That's not a real kick in the knee, right?
Speaker B:Those.
Speaker B:That's where the.
Speaker B:That's where the, you know, or being heartbroken or being, you know, grief.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Being, you know, oh, that was a kick in the rump.
Speaker B:I mean, we use these expressions for body parts.
Speaker B:That's where those emotions, those negative emotions go.
Speaker A:Have you.
Speaker A:Have you read the book?
Speaker A:I think we talked about this, so I'm pretty sure you did the Louise Hayes, you can heal your life.
Speaker B:Yes, I love.
Speaker B:I love her.
Speaker A:I love her, too.
Speaker A:And, you know, I had for.
Speaker A:For a very long time, even with courageous destiny, before I even took the leap into courageous destiny.
Speaker A:It was just an idea.
Speaker A:I remember having some soreness in my back and in my knees.
Speaker A:Yes, you've got it.
Speaker A:She's got the book.
Speaker A:I'm gonna put that in our.
Speaker A:Put that in our show notes too, because I love that if you're having some kind of chronic illness or chronic pain and you look up in that book what it.
Speaker A:You know, what it could relate to.
Speaker A:I'll never forget reading that the lower back was.
Speaker A:And the knees were in hips area.
Speaker A:That was all, you know, like, a fear of moving forward.
Speaker A:And it was funny because I knew that no matter what happened, courageous destiny was going like it's going.
Speaker A:There was a lot of reasons for me not to move it forward because, I don't know, triplets.
Speaker A:I had security in corporate America.
Speaker A:I mean, there was lots of reasons, you know, even trying to get the confidence up to speak and do what I do today, it took a lot.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It took me overcoming my fears and what have you.
Speaker A:So it was definitely a process.
Speaker A:But I remember having that pain in my hips and pain in my knees and pain in my back.
Speaker A:And now when I have that pain, I'm like, what are you not moving forward on, Kristen?
Speaker A:What's important to you?
Speaker A:And that book really helped me out quite a bit.
Speaker B:Yeah, it.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I think it's great.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:That's why it sits next to my desk, because I refer to it a lot.
Speaker B:When you, you know, I work with different clients for various different things with, you know, lots of modalities besides thermography.
Speaker B:But when it's like, okay, they're eating right, their diets, everything's good.
Speaker B:They're, you know, their blood work looks good, their everything looks good, then I'm like, let's look at the emotions of it.
Speaker B:Let's go take a little peek and see what happens.
Speaker A:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's really interesting, too, because, you know, we talk about letting go.
Speaker A:Like, to me, you know, even, like, for me, I have.
Speaker A:I have a few loving pounds to lose and to release coming here in the next few months.
Speaker A:And what I found is even that it's holding on to emotions, it's holding on to trying to control things I can't control, you know, etc.
Speaker A:Etc.
Speaker A:And I, I just want to say, you know, to the listeners, anybody's listening, this today, this can give you such great awareness.
Speaker A:Your body is such a great tool to give you such incredible awareness and what you're doing, you know, to be able to take and give somebody early detection like that, you know, emotions are one thing that we can start to work on.
Speaker A:We can.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Start to journal, we can start to get clear on our emotions.
Speaker A:We can start to do some of those things.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And then change the outcome, hopefully.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:To never get that diagnosis.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And to be able to see how you're doing with it, too.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's a great way to monitor either active treatment.
Speaker B:Is the treatment that you're doing working, whether it's natural or allopathic treatment, to see along the way.
Speaker B:It's a great way to monitor your own.
Speaker B:Like, oh, I started this new diet.
Speaker B:Is it looking good still?
Speaker B:You know, is that a good diet for me?
Speaker B:It's also a great way to monitor implants.
Speaker B:So women implants often are leery about getting Mammography because of the smashing and afraid that they're going to break open the implants.
Speaker B:But it can also look to see if they're leaking, you know, because if there's like a weird line coming out of it, a lot of inflammation, we can kind of see a little bit like, hey, is something going on?
Speaker B:So that's a great way to monitor that too.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:No, that's amazing.
Speaker A:And it's non invasive and I think that's the big thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, and, and the thing that I've heard, I've, I haven't been there myself, but I do have that on my list for 20, 25, for sure.
Speaker A:You know, to have this kind of screening because it is non invasive.
Speaker A:And for me.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, my breasts are so large too, that I think that that would probably work out better for me anyway.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's the, the thing that I hear a lot about women who are doing mammography.
Speaker B:And some, some do both, some choose not to.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:That's their decision is either being on the really small or really large side.
Speaker B:Then that causes trouble with the mammography.
Speaker B:Density causes trouble.
Speaker B:Like it's not easy to see through density with mammography, which, that doesn't matter for thermograms.
Speaker B:So large or small, anywhere in between.
Speaker B:Dense, not dense.
Speaker B:Any age.
Speaker B:There's no radiation, no touching, no compression.
Speaker B:We said that already.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:Most women are like, oh, that's it.
Speaker B:It's just like standing there to get your picture taken.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:You don't have your shirt on.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Vision through clothing.
Speaker B:But it's, you know, most women say that I've made it very simple.
Speaker B:I made them very comfortable.
Speaker B:And that's my goal, is to make them feel like it was a no big deal thing, but they checked off that good thing they did for themselves.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:You had said too, before we started speaking that you are an avid learner and in the service of women and their health.
Speaker A:So you're doing more than just breast thermography, which I really appreciate.
Speaker A:How did you get into it?
Speaker A:Like what, what was your passion?
Speaker A:Like, what sparked your passion about it?
Speaker B:So I've never really liked doing over the counter medications.
Speaker B:And so when I was pregnant with my daughter at 37, was my first child, so I was old, I had a geriatric pregnancy at 37.
Speaker B:Natural childbirth, thank you very much.
Speaker B:But I started to learn about how to eat healthier, be healthier, do things, you know, and just started learning there.
Speaker B:So first it was healing foods, then it was essential oils.
Speaker B:Then I learned a whole bunch of different modalities, like homeopathy and Hannah Kroger's work.
Speaker B:Who?
Speaker B:She's awesome.
Speaker B:Look into Hannah Kroger.
Speaker B:You'll love her.
Speaker B:And then at 39, because my mom had had breast cancer and my grandma had breast cancer, it was like, oh, you need to get a baseline, right?
Speaker B:So you go, you do your mammogram.
Speaker B:They scare the crap out of me.
Speaker B:You have to come back.
Speaker B:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:I didn't like the radiation.
Speaker B:I didn't like the smashing.
Speaker B:I had very dense breasts.
Speaker B:You know, all of the things that work against you when you go for a mammogram, then, you know, due diligence.
Speaker B:Come back at 40, same thing happen.
Speaker B:I'm like, there's got to be something else out there.
Speaker B:So don't do anything for a couple years.
Speaker B:Look and find thermography.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker B:There's something else out there.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But the person was mobile and love her.
Speaker B:Refer people to her when they're far away from me.
Speaker B:But she didn't come to the area very much.
Speaker B:And I thought, you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker B:This metropolitan Chicagoland area.
Speaker B:How come there's not more thermographers?
Speaker B:And so I did some research, and then, of course, went and got certified at two different places, and then, you know, set up shop with the Breast Thermography Center.
Speaker B:But it was just crazy that there weren't very many.
Speaker B: And now since, you know,: Speaker B:So, yeah, there's not very many of us.
Speaker A:Well, I, for one, am really glad that you're here.
Speaker A:By the way, in the show notes, there is going to be a link to the clinic in which Christine works.
Speaker A:So, you know we are in Lake county, correct?
Speaker A:Yeah, so we're in Lake County, Illinois.
Speaker A:But, you know, certainly if you have questions and there's going to be lots of information that you can look up online.
Speaker A:So if this is something that you're interested in, you know, or a loved one that you think needs this information, we want you to be able to get the information that you need.
Speaker A:So, Christine, I always have two questions that I always ask to every guest that's on my podcast.
Speaker A:And this question is the first question is, what is the most courageous thing you've ever done?
Speaker B:I knew you were going to ask this because I listened to your podcast.
Speaker B:So I would say I joined eharmony way back when and met and married my husband, who was from another country, in 14 months.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:We're still married 21 years later.
Speaker B:So that was probably pretty courageous for people who think that you're marrying a guy from another country.
Speaker B:He did.
Speaker B:He was India.
Speaker B:I mean, he was here at the time, but yeah, he was.
Speaker B:He's from India, so.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:I was gonna say.
Speaker A:Were you on that 90 Day Fiance.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:That would be funny, though.
Speaker A:That would be funny.
Speaker A:No, I might watch it then.
Speaker A:I know, right?
Speaker A:Wow, that is really amazing.
Speaker A:So you met him on eharmony?
Speaker B:Yes, and I.
Speaker A:One of the.
Speaker A:I could personally say I really love that story.
Speaker A:I met.
Speaker A:I met Darien on Plenty of Fish.
Speaker A:And that was.
Speaker A:I met him.
Speaker A:It was like, that's it.
Speaker A:Like, that's my person.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:It's possible.
Speaker A:All right, well, what is the most courageous thing that you have left to do on your bucket list?
Speaker B:There's so many things.
Speaker B:I think the most courageous thing would be to never give up.
Speaker B:To keep striving for more knowledge, learning, acceptance, understanding.
Speaker B:Just keep going.
Speaker B:Never give up.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That's my answer.
Speaker A:Well, I think that's awesome because I always say we're either, you know, we touched on it a little bit earlier.
Speaker A:We're either.
Speaker A:What I realized years ago because I used to say if I read a book, it was in the pastel section.
Speaker A:For many years of my life, I was just fiction.
Speaker A:Not that there's anything wrong with fiction, but I had this, you know, I didn't read self help books.
Speaker A:I didn't, you know, didn't know about self help or any of those things.
Speaker A:So I would.
Speaker A:I remember talking to my coach after I had hired him pretty early on, and I.
Speaker A:And he had said to me, he's like, well, you always have your choice.
Speaker A:You're either growing in this life or you're doing the opposite.
Speaker A:Which is what I'm like, dying, right?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And so today I look at it.
Speaker A:If I'm learning, if I'm growing, if I'm never giving up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Then.
Speaker A:Then I'm creating something.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:If I'm giving up, if I'm escaping into, you know, temporary things, you know, not that there's nothing wrong with a, you know, place, you know, piece of pizza every now and again.
Speaker A:But I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's like if I'm escaping into things and I start going that direction, lots of TV and feeding my mind politics, just all those different kinds of things, things.
Speaker A:I'm going the opposite direction.
Speaker A:So I love that you said that.
Speaker A:And I, I agree with you.
Speaker A:I do think it is the most courageous thing to keep growing and to not have any limits.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And you don't have to use everything you learn.
Speaker B:But it's still in there.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Well, I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation today.
Speaker A:Thank you, Christine, for coming on our show.
Speaker A:I am, I'm going to put this out there that I hope by the two of us speaking today, somebody heard about thermography and are going to check out this, you know, your, your website.
Speaker A:If they're in the area or look for something within their area to give them an alternative way to see what is going on in their body and to get that screening, it could just mean the world.
Speaker A:Even if there's nothing, even if there's like something really preliminary, a change of lifestyle, a change of perspective on emotions that you've carried around for a long time.
Speaker A:Having the ability to let something go is life changing and can really free up a life.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I'm happy to talk to anybody if they have questions or just.
Speaker B:I always say I like to give peace of mind.
Speaker B:I try not to use the C word.
Speaker B:Just peace of mind.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Is there any parting, parting thoughts you'd like to leave our listeners with today?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Thank you so much for asking that question.
Speaker B:Your health is your health.
Speaker B:Don't let doctors or family members bully you or force you or push you into something you're not comfortable with.
Speaker B:We have innate knowledge in our bodies and almost everything except maybe a car crash where you're bleeding, you know, or something like that is you have time to take a breath, do some research, perhaps pray if that's your thing.
Speaker B:And don't.
Speaker B:The cancer.
Speaker B:I said the C word.
Speaker B:It didn't start yesterday.
Speaker B:You can take a breath.
Speaker B:You can do some research, you can do some soul searching, you can ask questions, you can get a second opinion.
Speaker B:The doctors only know what they know.
Speaker B:They stay in their lane.
Speaker B:There's lots of other things out there that people have used all over the world for centuries that can maybe be an option, something in addition to, or, you know, you need to be really comfortable with what you do.
Speaker B:So if you don't want to do something, don't be bullied into saying that that's the only way or that you have to do it right now.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I would imagine taking that time to honor yourself by educating yourself.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which might not be Dr.
Speaker B:Google.
Speaker B:I don't recommend Dr.
Speaker B:Google.
Speaker A:Oh, gosh, no.
Speaker B:Because you're gonna get all the bad, you know, all the bad things.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:And then that creates the fear.
Speaker A:And then the fear creates the urgency and the desperation.
Speaker B:Right, Fear.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, and then you just start running in a direction because that's what somebody says.
Speaker A:But your body is unique to you.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:I mean, we get more second opinions or do more research on buying a refrigerator than we do our health, which seems a little.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:So, yes, they're experts, but our mechanic is also an expert.
Speaker B:And we might go to a second mechanic if we didn't like the price or we didn't like the diagnostic whatever and ask for a second opinion or we might do research on, you know, consumer guide for our refrigerator, but we're doing nothing.
Speaker B:We're just going to the doctor that's in our health care plan and that's who we're supposed to go to, and they're the experts.
Speaker B:So that's the end of it.
Speaker B:Which really, our health is way more important than our refrigerator or our car.
Speaker A:So much so.
Speaker A:So much so.
Speaker A:And if we could reach a few people with that message today, it could make all the difference.
Speaker A:So for sure, I appreciate you.
Speaker A:I appreciate you sharing with me and my listeners today and our listeners today.
Speaker A:We will have all the links in the show notes.
Speaker A:And until next time, everyone live courageously.
